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	<title>Comments on: The SpringSource Certification Program</title>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 08:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: sateesh</title>
		<link>http://blog.springsource.com/2008/01/17/the-springsource-certification-program/#comment-100646</link>
		<dc:creator>sateesh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

  I totally agree with Martin. I took the training in 2006 and has been using Spring since then. Now in order to take the exam either i need to take the training again or i need to prove that i am a significant contributor to spring development. That seems a bit odd.. Why do you allow people who attended the training just not the ones who attended it recently ..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>  I totally agree with Martin. I took the training in 2006 and has been using Spring since then. Now in order to take the exam either i need to take the training again or i need to prove that i am a significant contributor to spring development. That seems a bit odd.. Why do you allow people who attended the training just not the ones who attended it recently ..</p>
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		<title>By: Martin</title>
		<link>http://blog.springsource.com/2008/01/17/the-springsource-certification-program/#comment-94376</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 17:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is there a requirement that you must have taken the training course this after 1st January 2008?  Why are those who took it in 2006/2007 not eligable?  I can understand not offering it for free for those candidates, but why are they forced to go the grandfathered route?  It would seem easier to verify taking a course in the past than providing evidence of products worked on since.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is there a requirement that you must have taken the training course this after 1st January 2008?  Why are those who took it in 2006/2007 not eligable?  I can understand not offering it for free for those candidates, but why are they forced to go the grandfathered route?  It would seem easier to verify taking a course in the past than providing evidence of products worked on since.</p>
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		<title>By: Spring framework å¸‚å ´æŒ?çºŒæ“´å¤§ &#171; Peace Palace - æŠ€è¡“ã€?è©•è«–ã€?ç”Ÿæ´»</title>
		<link>http://blog.springsource.com/2008/01/17/the-springsource-certification-program/#comment-94349</link>
		<dc:creator>Spring framework å¸‚å ´æŒ?çºŒæ“´å¤§ &#171; Peace Palace - æŠ€è¡“ã€?è©•è«–ã€?ç”Ÿæ´»</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 15:22:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Dion Almaer</title>
		<link>http://blog.springsource.com/2008/01/17/the-springsource-certification-program/#comment-92866</link>
		<dc:creator>Dion Almaer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 06:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Daryl,

Bloody hell mate. I only just saw this, and saw that you were over at Spring :)

Great to see you here.

Cheers,

Dion</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daryl,</p>
<p>Bloody hell mate. I only just saw this, and saw that you were over at Spring <img src='http://blog.springsource.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Great to see you here.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Dion</p>
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		<title>By: Meera Subbarao</title>
		<link>http://blog.springsource.com/2008/01/17/the-springsource-certification-program/#comment-92168</link>
		<dc:creator>Meera Subbarao</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 18:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Daryl,
I am really interested in taking this exam, and we have been using Spring in our company for the past 3 years.
Please explain how we can provide a reference to show that we are using it? 

Thanks.
Meera Subbarao</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Daryl,<br />
I am really interested in taking this exam, and we have been using Spring in our company for the past 3 years.<br />
Please explain how we can provide a reference to show that we are using it? </p>
<p>Thanks.<br />
Meera Subbarao</p>
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		<title>By: Ollie</title>
		<link>http://blog.springsource.com/2008/01/17/the-springsource-certification-program/#comment-92097</link>
		<dc:creator>Ollie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 12:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt, I understood that the three way are "or" concatenated. But I think a four day spring course (as good as it might be) can not provide you with knowledge to simple step into "actively participate in Spring's development". To me, the spectrum in required (required in the sense of passing the exam successfully, not simply taking it) knowledge seemed a little wide to me.

Daryl, unfortunately I missed the webinar yesterday. Are the some slides you could provide for download?

Regards,
Ollie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt, I understood that the three way are &#034;or&#034; concatenated. But I think a four day spring course (as good as it might be) can not provide you with knowledge to simple step into &#034;actively participate in Spring&#039;s development&#034;. To me, the spectrum in required (required in the sense of passing the exam successfully, not simply taking it) knowledge seemed a little wide to me.</p>
<p>Daryl, unfortunately I missed the webinar yesterday. Are the some slides you could provide for download?</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Ollie</p>
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		<title>By: SpringSource Team Blog &#187; Spring Overtakes EJB as a Skills Requirement</title>
		<link>http://blog.springsource.com/2008/01/17/the-springsource-certification-program/#comment-92063</link>
		<dc:creator>SpringSource Team Blog &#187; Spring Overtakes EJB as a Skills Requirement</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jan 2008 08:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] It&#39;s timely that this milestone in job requirements occurred just before we announced the SpringSource Spring Certification program. Now that Spring is such an important skill in the market, it&#39;s important to both employers and developers that there is a definitive measure for Spring knowledge. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] It&#39;s timely that this milestone in job requirements occurred just before we announced the SpringSource Spring Certification program. Now that Spring is such an important skill in the market, it&#39;s important to both employers and developers that there is a definitive measure for Spring knowledge. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: car picture</title>
		<link>http://blog.springsource.com/2008/01/17/the-springsource-certification-program/#comment-90328</link>
		<dc:creator>car picture</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 07:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A person is eligible to take the certification exam if that person has recently attended the Four Day Core Spring course, is a significant contributor within the Spring community, or can provide a reference to a Spring development effort in which he or she was actively involved.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A person is eligible to take the certification exam if that person has recently attended the Four Day Core Spring course, is a significant contributor within the Spring community, or can provide a reference to a Spring development effort in which he or she was actively involved.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Passell</title>
		<link>http://blog.springsource.com/2008/01/17/the-springsource-certification-program/#comment-90213</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Passell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 01:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ollie, it looks like the sentence you're quoting is of the form "A, B, or C" (as in, A &#124;&#124; B &#124;&#124; C).  You should only need to meet one of those three criteria to be eligible to take the exam.  Is that correct, Daryl?

Thanks,
Matt

[quote post="261"]A person is eligible to take the certification exam if that person has recently attended the Four Day Core Spring course, is a significant contributor within the Spring community, or can provide a reference to a Spring development effort in which he or she was actively involved.[/quote]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ollie, it looks like the sentence you&#039;re quoting is of the form &#034;A, B, or C&#034; (as in, A || B || C).  You should only need to meet one of those three criteria to be eligible to take the exam.  Is that correct, Daryl?</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Matt</p>
<p>[quote post="261"]A person is eligible to take the certification exam if that person has recently attended the Four Day Core Spring course, is a significant contributor within the Spring community, or can provide a reference to a Spring development effort in which he or she was actively involved.[/quote]</p>
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		<title>By: Ollie</title>
		<link>http://blog.springsource.com/2008/01/17/the-springsource-certification-program/#comment-89369</link>
		<dc:creator>Ollie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Daryl,

I was pleased to hear the announcement of Spring certifications. But after trying to take look at the requirements I hardly get the point. To me there is a huge way between "taking a 4-day spring course" and "having significantly contributed to the Spring community". So how could someone be skilled to pass the certification after 4 days of training if you on the other hand  advise to have contributed to the spring community or have more or less been involved in development. As I understand this, the later requires a lot more experience and skills.

Could you give a little more details on that or do you plan to lighten this up on the webinar?

Regards, Ollie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Daryl,</p>
<p>I was pleased to hear the announcement of Spring certifications. But after trying to take look at the requirements I hardly get the point. To me there is a huge way between &#034;taking a 4-day spring course&#034; and &#034;having significantly contributed to the Spring community&#034;. So how could someone be skilled to pass the certification after 4 days of training if you on the other hand  advise to have contributed to the spring community or have more or less been involved in development. As I understand this, the later requires a lot more experience and skills.</p>
<p>Could you give a little more details on that or do you plan to lighten this up on the webinar?</p>
<p>Regards, Ollie</p>
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