Comments on: Who is the Chief of the Apache projects? http://blog.springsource.org/2008/08/22/who-is-the-chief-of-the-apache-projects/ The voice of SpringSource Wed, 08 Feb 2012 17:31:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.1 By: Stop this “my support is better than yours” discussion! | pgt / adminSight http://blog.springsource.org/2008/08/22/who-is-the-chief-of-the-apache-projects/comment-page-1/#comment-118906 Stop this “my support is better than yours” discussion! | pgt / adminSight Sat, 30 Aug 2008 19:40:42 +0000 http://blog.springsource.com/main/2008/08/22/who-is-the-chief-of-the-apache-projects/#comment-118906 [...] That’s why I do not agree entirely with the label “parasites”. It is not easy to offer support, IMHO it is a Job that no one likes to do. I don’t know if it is true for everyone - but I am very happy to be a developer and not to be a support guy. It just happens that it is exactly this job is actually needed, and hence, can be monetized. [...] [...] That's why I do not agree entirely with the label "parasites". It is not easy to offer support, IMHO it is a Job that no one likes to do. I don't know if it is true for everyone – but I am very happy to be a developer and not to be a support guy. It just happens that it is exactly this job is actually needed, and hence, can be monetized. [...]

]]> By: Ben http://blog.springsource.org/2008/08/22/who-is-the-chief-of-the-apache-projects/comment-page-1/#comment-118829 Ben Sat, 30 Aug 2008 00:38:30 +0000 http://blog.springsource.com/main/2008/08/22/who-is-the-chief-of-the-apache-projects/#comment-118829 I agree with Raju. You clearly don't understand open source or community, Mark. I agree with Raju. You clearly don't understand open source or community, Mark.

]]> By: Raju http://blog.springsource.org/2008/08/22/who-is-the-chief-of-the-apache-projects/comment-page-1/#comment-118823 Raju Fri, 29 Aug 2008 23:29:26 +0000 http://blog.springsource.com/main/2008/08/22/who-is-the-chief-of-the-apache-projects/#comment-118823 It does not matter if one is selling support explicitly for one OSS project or consuming the whole project and more and selling it as a solution. End result is they are benefiting from someone's efforts. It does not matter if its big as Spring or small as Ant. Once you open source you really cannot complain about someone using (making money out of) someone else's work. If thats someone's worry then they should think hard before making the plunge into the OSS world. Anyone who complains about leeching from an OSS project is not fully embracing the OSS mindset IMHO. It does not matter if one is selling support explicitly for one OSS project or consuming the whole project and more and selling it as a solution. End result is they are benefiting from someone's efforts.

It does not matter if its big as Spring or small as Ant. Once you open source you really cannot complain about someone using (making money out of) someone else's work. If thats someone's worry then they should think hard before making the plunge into the OSS world. Anyone who complains about leeching from an OSS project is not fully embracing the OSS mindset IMHO.

]]> By: Mark http://blog.springsource.org/2008/08/22/who-is-the-chief-of-the-apache-projects/comment-page-1/#comment-118715 Mark Fri, 29 Aug 2008 00:24:27 +0000 http://blog.springsource.com/main/2008/08/22/who-is-the-chief-of-the-apache-projects/#comment-118715 SpringSource did (and still does) consume some Apache technologies into Spring projects, but until the acquisition of Covalent they were not in the business of selling support or products that were explicitly Apache. It was not my intention to say that simply embedding an Apache project into a commercial offering (support or product), while not directly contributing to the Apache project, means you are a 'parasite'. An interesting side note is that more than a half a dozen Apache projects have dependencies on Spring technologies (mostly the Spring Framework). So, it's safe to say that SpringSource has been contributing to Apache projects and their success prior to the Covalent acquisition. SpringSource did (and still does) consume some Apache technologies into Spring projects, but until the acquisition of Covalent they were not in the business of selling support or products that were explicitly Apache. It was not my intention to say that simply embedding an Apache project into a commercial offering (support or product), while not directly contributing to the Apache project, means you are a 'parasite'.

An interesting side note is that more than a half a dozen Apache projects have dependencies on Spring technologies (mostly the Spring Framework). So, it's safe to say that SpringSource has been contributing to Apache projects and their success prior to the Covalent acquisition.

]]> By: Raju http://blog.springsource.org/2008/08/22/who-is-the-chief-of-the-apache-projects/comment-page-1/#comment-118694 Raju Thu, 28 Aug 2008 17:49:52 +0000 http://blog.springsource.com/main/2008/08/22/who-is-the-chief-of-the-apache-projects/#comment-118694 So does that mean SpringSource was a parasite on a bunch of Apache projects before acquiring Covalent? Were you not selling services/support using a few apache components embedded in your end product? Sorry I dont know the exact history of SpringSource but it would be good to hear a clarification directly from you. So does that mean SpringSource was a parasite on a bunch of Apache projects before acquiring Covalent?
Were you not selling services/support using a few apache components embedded in your end product? Sorry I dont know the exact history of SpringSource but it would be good to hear a clarification directly from you.

]]> By: Mark http://blog.springsource.org/2008/08/22/who-is-the-chief-of-the-apache-projects/comment-page-1/#comment-118406 Mark Mon, 25 Aug 2008 21:17:00 +0000 http://blog.springsource.com/main/2008/08/22/who-is-the-chief-of-the-apache-projects/#comment-118406 The Apache Software Foundation accepts donations from individuals and organizations. You can learn more about the options here - http://www.apache.org/foundation/contributing.html The Apache Software Foundation accepts donations from individuals and organizations. You can learn more about the options here – http://www.apache.org/foundation/contributing.html

]]> By: kral oyunlar http://blog.springsource.org/2008/08/22/who-is-the-chief-of-the-apache-projects/comment-page-1/#comment-118402 kral oyunlar Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:46:14 +0000 http://blog.springsource.com/main/2008/08/22/who-is-the-chief-of-the-apache-projects/#comment-118402 "The answer is the Apache Software Foundation" I really wonder that, how they get money exactly, does donate work? "The answer is the Apache Software Foundation" I really wonder that, how they get money exactly, does donate work?

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