Comments on: Spring Overtakes EJB as a Skills Requirement http://blog.springsource.com/2008/01/23/spring-overtakes-ejb-as-a-skills-requirement/ The voice of SpringSource Tue, 16 Mar 2010 19:19:02 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.5 hourly 1 By: sj http://blog.springsource.com/2008/01/23/spring-overtakes-ejb-as-a-skills-requirement/comment-page-1/#comment-115944 sj Tue, 05 Aug 2008 01:41:40 +0000 http://blog.springsource.com/main/2008/01/23/spring-overtakes-ejb-as-a-skills-requirement/#comment-115944 If you are an agile shop then you would hire a person with spring experience. If your core developers consist of people who have not heard of log4j then you would hire people with Java EE experience only. You can scale spring application more easily than EJB application. If you are an agile shop then you would hire a person with spring experience. If your core developers consist of people who have not heard of log4j then you would hire people with Java EE experience only.

You can scale spring application more easily than EJB application.

]]> By: Deep http://blog.springsource.com/2008/01/23/spring-overtakes-ejb-as-a-skills-requirement/comment-page-1/#comment-115715 Deep Sun, 03 Aug 2008 06:42:53 +0000 http://blog.springsource.com/main/2008/01/23/spring-overtakes-ejb-as-a-skills-requirement/#comment-115715 Obviously, there will be less number of posting for 'Rocket engine expert' than the 'Car engine expert'. As a learner, I prefer to learn challenging things. Just think that you are about to hire a person out of two: one with Java EE domain and another from Spring - What will be you choice ? of course, Java EE!! Getting more users choice does not mean it is the best animal in this world. Most of the folks in this world are naive developers, who do not really know what enterprise services are. They just peak what they feel easy. Experts always have their choice - they always know what best suits for them. Obviously, there will be less number of posting for 'Rocket engine expert' than the 'Car engine expert'. As a learner, I prefer to learn challenging things. Just think that you are about to hire a person out of two: one with Java EE domain and another from Spring – What will be you choice ? of course, Java EE!!

Getting more users choice does not mean it is the best animal in this world. Most of the folks in this world are naive developers, who do not really know what enterprise services are. They just peak what they feel easy. Experts always have their choice – they always know what best suits for them.

]]> By: 451 CAOS Theory » 451 CAOS Links - 2008.01.24 http://blog.springsource.com/2008/01/23/spring-overtakes-ejb-as-a-skills-requirement/comment-page-1/#comment-109147 451 CAOS Theory » 451 CAOS Links - 2008.01.24 Mon, 09 Jun 2008 14:42:40 +0000 http://blog.springsource.com/main/2008/01/23/spring-overtakes-ejb-as-a-skills-requirement/#comment-109147 [...] Spring Overtakes EJB as a Skills Requirement, SpringSource Team Blog, Rod Johnson (Blog) [...] [...] Spring Overtakes EJB as a Skills Requirement, SpringSource Team Blog, Rod Johnson (Blog) [...]

]]> By: Rod Johnson http://blog.springsource.com/2008/01/23/spring-overtakes-ejb-as-a-skills-requirement/comment-page-1/#comment-99786 Rod Johnson Sun, 02 Mar 2008 18:22:18 +0000 http://blog.springsource.com/main/2008/01/23/spring-overtakes-ejb-as-a-skills-requirement/#comment-99786 Well, it's best to make categorical assertions (especially when accusing others of "manipulation") when you have time to back them up. Anyway, I look forward to hearing your arguments. Remember to leave a trackback or post them here and I'll happily dispute them. Well, it's best to make categorical assertions (especially when accusing others of "manipulation") when you have time to back them up.

Anyway, I look forward to hearing your arguments. Remember to leave a trackback or post them here and I'll happily dispute them.

]]> By: Pedro http://blog.springsource.com/2008/01/23/spring-overtakes-ejb-as-a-skills-requirement/comment-page-1/#comment-99785 Pedro Sun, 02 Mar 2008 18:05:25 +0000 http://blog.springsource.com/main/2008/01/23/spring-overtakes-ejb-as-a-skills-requirement/#comment-99785 You are right, I have not much time to argue on this, and to place the fairly asked arguments, but I promess I will post it as soon as I finish the job of refactoring an application that uses SpringBeans to access EJB 3.0 on JBoss 4. I swear is a real life case. Best Regards You are right, I have not much time to argue on this, and to place the fairly asked arguments, but I promess I will post it as soon as I finish the job of refactoring an application that uses SpringBeans to access EJB 3.0 on JBoss 4. I swear is a real life case.

Best Regards

]]> By: Rod Johnson http://blog.springsource.com/2008/01/23/spring-overtakes-ejb-as-a-skills-requirement/comment-page-1/#comment-99714 Rod Johnson Sat, 01 Mar 2008 16:53:28 +0000 http://blog.springsource.com/main/2008/01/23/spring-overtakes-ejb-as-a-skills-requirement/#comment-99714 Pedro There is no manipulation. As for your implication that the growth is from a low base, maybe you should actually read my post. For example, where I mention that "As of yesterday, the respective job numbers were 5710 for Spring against 5030 for EJB." Hardly the new soda that sold 1 can last year :-) As for EJB 3.0 "avoiding all problems of previous versions," if you wish to make this argument please provide some supporting detail. You should at least reply to the points I made in the blog. Rgds Rod Pedro

There is no manipulation. As for your implication that the growth is from a low base, maybe you should actually read my post. For example, where I mention that "As of yesterday, the respective job numbers were 5710 for Spring against 5030 for EJB." Hardly the new soda that sold 1 can last year :-)

As for EJB 3.0 "avoiding all problems of previous versions," if you wish to make this argument please provide some supporting detail. You should at least reply to the points I made in the blog.

Rgds
Rod

]]> By: Pedro http://blog.springsource.com/2008/01/23/spring-overtakes-ejb-as-a-skills-requirement/comment-page-1/#comment-99713 Pedro Sat, 01 Mar 2008 16:36:36 +0000 http://blog.springsource.com/main/2008/01/23/spring-overtakes-ejb-as-a-skills-requirement/#comment-99713 When you start to make comparisons and manipulate graphics to make a point (i.e. when you place the growth rate in comparison, you can also place a graphic of a new soda that sold 1 can last year and this year sold 2 (your mom and dad) and still get an impressive growth of 100% over the ridiculous 17% growth of coke), you are clearly trying to become like your oponent. EJB people does not need to do that, EJB 3.0 avoids all problems of previous versions (a.k.a evolution) and will be there long after the spring changeover to summer. When you start to make comparisons and manipulate graphics to make a point (i.e. when you place the growth rate in comparison, you can also place a graphic of a new soda that sold 1 can last year and this year sold 2 (your mom and dad) and still get an impressive growth of 100% over the ridiculous 17% growth of coke), you are clearly trying to become like your oponent. EJB people does not need to do that, EJB 3.0 avoids all problems of previous versions (a.k.a evolution) and will be there long after the spring changeover to summer.

]]> By: Sean NGuyen http://blog.springsource.com/2008/01/23/spring-overtakes-ejb-as-a-skills-requirement/comment-page-1/#comment-99443 Sean NGuyen Wed, 27 Feb 2008 03:58:02 +0000 http://blog.springsource.com/main/2008/01/23/spring-overtakes-ejb-as-a-skills-requirement/#comment-99443 Hi, The number of Spring job vs EJB job is quite impressive. But anybody has any bench mark number? Aple to apple comparision might have something to say too. Thanks, Hi,
The number of Spring job vs EJB job is quite impressive. But anybody has any bench mark number? Aple to apple comparision might have something to say too.
Thanks,

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