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		<title>By: Leroy</title>
		<link>http://blog.springsource.org/2007/07/19/debunking-myths-proxies-impact-performance/comment-page-1/#comment-222914</link>
		<dc:creator>Leroy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Nov 2011 14:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alef, thank you for the insight. If you are still active on this, can you explain if proxys affect bandwith as well?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alef, thank you for the insight. If you are still active on this, can you explain if proxys affect bandwith as well?</p>
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		<title>By: proxies</title>
		<link>http://blog.springsource.org/2007/07/19/debunking-myths-proxies-impact-performance/comment-page-1/#comment-202846</link>
		<dc:creator>proxies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Sep 2011 11:32:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I absolutely agree on these matters on using and improving proxy performance. Keep blogging.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I absolutely agree on these matters on using and improving proxy performance. Keep blogging.</p>
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		<title>By: kk</title>
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		<dc:creator>kk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Feb 2011 05:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very Useful blog!!! Keep it up buddy !!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very Useful blog!!! Keep it up buddy !!</p>
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		<title>By: pls</title>
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		<dc:creator>pls</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Nov 2010 10:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks! Great post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks! Great post!</p>
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		<title>By: Female Circus Performer</title>
		<link>http://blog.springsource.org/2007/07/19/debunking-myths-proxies-impact-performance/comment-page-1/#comment-172671</link>
		<dc:creator>Female Circus Performer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 May 2010 03:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alluring blog! Thanks for giving out this hearsay. It will be very constructive in regular part of site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alluring blog! Thanks for giving out this hearsay. It will be very constructive in regular part of site.</p>
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		<title>By: Alef Arendsen</title>
		<link>http://blog.springsource.org/2007/07/19/debunking-myths-proxies-impact-performance/comment-page-1/#comment-89437</link>
		<dc:creator>Alef Arendsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 22:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Cliff,

this is exactly what I did. It was a very quick benchmark and this is the usual technique I use as well. I do usually execute these tests on a *nux-based machine, as I find the accuracy of system.currentTimeMillis() to be a little better there. As long as the you make the number of executions very big, it doesn&#039;t really make a difference anymore however...

One thing you have to keep in mind: micro benchmarks are not really useful if you *really* want to know about the performance of a specific operation. A micro benchmark ignores a lot of stuff such as concurrency, the difference in platforms you run the benchmark on, et cetera... So this is really only indicative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Cliff,</p>
<p>this is exactly what I did. It was a very quick benchmark and this is the usual technique I use as well. I do usually execute these tests on a *nux-based machine, as I find the accuracy of system.currentTimeMillis() to be a little better there. As long as the you make the number of executions very big, it doesn&#039;t really make a difference anymore however&#8230;</p>
<p>One thing you have to keep in mind: micro benchmarks are not really useful if you *really* want to know about the performance of a specific operation. A micro benchmark ignores a lot of stuff such as concurrency, the difference in platforms you run the benchmark on, et cetera&#8230; So this is really only indicative.</p>
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		<title>By: Cliff Meyers</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cliff Meyers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 21:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting and useful article.  May I ask how you performed this benchmark?  Did you just loop over a method invocation a very large number of times, say several billion?  I have been doing some benchmarks on operations that take roughly 1 millisecond to execute and I find that using calls to System.currentTimeMillis() seem to only have a precision of 15-20ms.  I&#039;ve compensated by running a very large number of tests, measuring the total and dividing to get an everage.  But if there is some other technique for getting more precise time measurements I would love to know about it!  Thanks.

-Cliff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting and useful article.  May I ask how you performed this benchmark?  Did you just loop over a method invocation a very large number of times, say several billion?  I have been doing some benchmarks on operations that take roughly 1 millisecond to execute and I find that using calls to System.currentTimeMillis() seem to only have a precision of 15-20ms.  I&#039;ve compensated by running a very large number of tests, measuring the total and dividing to get an everage.  But if there is some other technique for getting more precise time measurements I would love to know about it!  Thanks.</p>
<p>-Cliff</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 08:58:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: John "Z-Bo" Zabroski</title>
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		<dc:creator>John "Z-Bo" Zabroski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2007 14:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry.  I was confused by this statement: &quot;When I have time I&#039;ll try to have a look at the small benchmark that I prepared.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry.  I was confused by this statement: &#034;When I have time I&#039;ll try to have a look at the small benchmark that I prepared.&#034;</p>
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		<title>By: Alef Arendsen</title>
		<link>http://blog.springsource.org/2007/07/19/debunking-myths-proxies-impact-performance/comment-page-1/#comment-36239</link>
		<dc:creator>Alef Arendsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jul 2007 06:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[quote comment=&quot;36230&quot;]How do you intend on designing this benchmark?  Now _that_ would be something to blog about.  You might get good feedback on how to design or improve the quality of the benchmark, too.[/quote]
John,

I hope you realize that my goal of this blog entry was to actually point out that a I&#039;m not going to do a benchmark :) as it is irrelevant. Of course, from a theoretic standpoint it would definitely be a nice exercise, but unfortunately I (and I think neither does any of my colleagues) don&#039;t have time for this...

regards,
Alef</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[quote comment="36230"]How do you intend on designing this benchmark?  Now _that_ would be something to blog about.  You might get good feedback on how to design or improve the quality of the benchmark, too.[/quote]<br />
John,</p>
<p>I hope you realize that my goal of this blog entry was to actually point out that a I&#039;m not going to do a benchmark <img src='http://blog.springsource.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  as it is irrelevant. Of course, from a theoretic standpoint it would definitely be a nice exercise, but unfortunately I (and I think neither does any of my colleagues) don&#039;t have time for this&#8230;</p>
<p>regards,<br />
Alef</p>
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